WEBVTT 00:00:05.060 --> 00:00:07.090 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] You want me to tell my story? 00:00:07.230 --> 00:00:10.140 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] I don't want to think about it anymore, 00:00:10.190 --> 00:00:14.090 when I do, I cry at home alone, [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] I remember and cry alone. 00:00:18.020 --> 00:00:23.200 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] It was 8 am and I was cooking ullucus soup here, at home. 00:00:25.040 --> 00:00:28.060 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] Some nurses came to our door. 00:00:28.150 --> 00:00:29.230 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] They called to me, 00:00:30.090 --> 00:00:32.200 'Señora', and I went out to them. 00:00:33.060 --> 00:00:35.040 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] Why didn't I hide then? 00:00:35.150 --> 00:00:40.060 - Where's your husband? [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] - Working in the field, I must take him his soup. 00:00:40.140 --> 00:00:41.210 No, no... 00:00:42.030 --> 00:00:44.100 we must go to the clinic immediately. 00:00:44.150 --> 00:00:45.210 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] They held my arms, 00:00:46.020 --> 00:00:48.010 one like this, one like that. 00:00:48.050 --> 00:00:50.120 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] We got to the Limatambo clinic. 00:00:50.220 --> 00:00:52.100 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] There were nurses, 00:00:52.150 --> 00:00:54.230 they were all standing in a row. 00:00:55.150 --> 00:00:58.200 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] One came at me from behind, two others held my arms. 00:00:59.200 --> 00:01:03.100 they dragged me into an O.R. and put a blue gown on me. 00:01:03.180 --> 00:01:05.150 'Come on, change quickly!' 00:01:05.200 --> 00:01:08.170 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] I didn't want to, so the nurses did it for me, 00:01:08.210 --> 00:01:10.090 and put me on a cot. 00:01:10.130 --> 00:01:13.130 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] They asked, 'How many kids do you have?' 00:01:14.050 --> 00:01:16.160 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] Five, señorita, 'aha', they said. 00:01:16.200 --> 00:01:19.110 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] 'How old are they?' [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] And I was... 00:01:19.150 --> 00:01:21.000 so scared. 00:01:23.000 --> 00:01:27.110 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] They asked constant questions, I felt the anaesthesia starting to work. 00:01:27.240 --> 00:01:29.200 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] I remember nothing else. 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:37.000 STERILISED 00:01:37.240 --> 00:01:40.030 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] When I came round, it was already evening. 00:01:40.080 --> 00:01:41.180 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] In other wards, 00:01:42.040 --> 00:01:43.080 by the doors, 00:01:43.190 --> 00:01:47.010 in the corridors, there were women everywhere 00:01:47.060 --> 00:01:49.210 they were crying, crying, crying... 00:01:50.200 --> 00:01:54.000 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] 'Ouch, it hurts, it hurts!' 00:01:54.050 --> 00:01:58.180 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] They cried out their children's names, their husbands' names. 00:01:59.040 --> 00:02:01.110 Señorita, my body hurts, 00:02:01.240 --> 00:02:04.120 my belly hurts, I can't move! 00:02:04.160 --> 00:02:05.160 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] Just shut up! 00:02:05.180 --> 00:02:07.040 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] It will all be fine soon! 00:02:07.240 --> 00:02:12.230 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] You want to breed like rabbits? [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] Like a guinea pig, a rat? 00:02:14.070 --> 00:02:17.190 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] Starting from today, you will thank Señor Fujimori, 00:02:19.010 --> 00:02:22.130 because you won't have any more children. 00:02:22.180 --> 00:02:25.050 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] We've tied your uterine tubes. 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:44.000 ALBERTO FUJIMORI was president of Peru from 1990 to 2000. As part of his fight against poverty, he initiated a ‘Voluntary Surgical Contraception’ programme. More than 300,000 men and women were permanently sterilized 00:02:45.000 --> 00:02:50.000 GRAPHICS Lima 00:02:52.000 --> 00:03:00.000 I was very proud to have the government of president Fujimori to refix things in Peru. 00:03:01.230 --> 00:03:04.140 [ MARTHA CHAVEZ President of Peru Congress, 1995-1996 ] A scary legend was built on this theme, 00:03:04.190 --> 00:03:07.230 created to besmirch Fujimori's government. 00:03:08.130 --> 00:03:12.150 [ MARTHA CHAVEZ ] So they talk of 300,000 forced sterilisation victims. 00:03:13.050 --> 00:03:18.150 [ MARTHA CHAVEZ ] But I don't believe there was even 0.1 percent 00:03:19.030 --> 00:03:25.130 of cases when they didn’t give their personal consent. 00:03:25.160 --> 00:03:28.200 [ MARTHA CHAVEZ ] There are very few instances 00:03:29.000 --> 00:03:33.170 of coercion. 00:03:35:0000:03:42:00 LAGUNA CASHIBOCOCHA 00:03:45.070 --> 00:03:49.000 [ MILENA VASQUEZ ] At times my whole body hurts, my head aches, sometimes I cry. 00:03:49.100 --> 00:03:54.050 [ MILENA VASQUEZ ] I often can't hold things, my hands are like this, my fingers don't work. 00:03:56.140 --> 00:04:00.090 [ MILENA VASQUEZ ] My daughter gave me her child because 00:04:00.140 --> 00:04:04.140 [ MILENA VASQUEZ ] I could do almost nothing on my own. 00:04:04.190 --> 00:04:08.040 [ MILENA VASQUEZ ] My granddaughter helps me around the house. 00:04:11.220 --> 00:04:14.100 [ MILENA VASQUEZ ] I've been this way for several years, 00:04:14.180 --> 00:04:18.050 [ MILENA VASQUEZ ] I can't get better and feel very ill. 00:04:21.070 --> 00:04:24.020 [ MILENA VASQUEZ ] They visited our village twice 00:04:24.220 --> 00:04:30.040 and they insisted that I go with them, they said we had too many children. 00:04:31.240 --> 00:04:34.090 [ MILENA VASQUEZ ] They made us go to the hospital. 00:04:34.170 --> 00:04:38.110 [ MILENA VASQUEZ ] I tried to leave but they forced me to stay. 00:04:38.160 --> 00:04:41.020 [ MILENA VASQUEZ ] I was given an injection 00:04:41.070 --> 00:04:44.230 and I don't remember anything else. 00:04:45.160 --> 00:04:48.030 [ MILENA VASQUEZ ] I woke up later in acute pain. 00:04:50.010 --> 00:04:52.130 [ MILENA VASQUEZ ] Nobody cared about me, 00:04:52.180 --> 00:04:56.160 although they did give me some paracetamol. 00:04:58.130 --> 00:05:01.160 [ MILENA VASQUEZ ] I only learned later that it was sterilisation 00:05:01.210 --> 00:05:05.070 [ MILENA VASQUEZ ] I was told I couldn't have any more children. 00:05:06.100 --> 00:05:10.140 [ JAIME SUAREZ Milena’s husband ] We had no way of contacting the doctors. 00:05:10.210 --> 00:05:14.000 [ JAIME SUAREZ ] I was upset. 00:05:14.100 --> 00:05:18.110 [ JAIME SUAREZ ] After it all happened, I couldn't do anything. 00:05:19.040 --> 00:05:21.110 [ JAIME SUAREZ ] I wanted to have more children 00:05:21.160 --> 00:05:23.050 but unfortunately, 00:05:23.170 --> 00:05:28.050 it wasn’t possible anymore. 00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:37.000 PUCALLPA 00:05:40.120 --> 00:05:44.030 [ РУД ВЕДУЩИЙ ПО РАДИО ] Dear friends, we invite you, on the 27th and 28th of June 00:05:44.080 --> 00:05:46.060 to this important event, 00:05:46.110 --> 00:05:49.210 a workshop for victims of forced sterilisation 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:55.000 held by the indigenous women's organisation. 00:05:55.060 --> 00:05:59.050 [ РУД ] We cordially invite all our sisters, all our women, 00:05:59.100 --> 00:06:03.100 so they can come to receive information about how to register 00:06:03.150 --> 00:06:06.080 as a victim of forced sterilisation. 00:06:24.040 --> 00:06:29.200 [ ЛАЙФ ] Sisters, to find justice, we need first of all to find the truth, 00:06:30.020 --> 00:06:35.060 so that justice prevails for what happened to us 21 years ago. 00:06:35.110 --> 00:06:37.060 [ ЛАЙФ ] It’s painful 00:06:37.130 --> 00:06:43.070 but we cannot let such things go unpunished. 00:06:43.210 --> 00:06:46.210 [ ЛАЙФ ] No one will make you talk about anything 00:06:46.240 --> 00:06:49.230 that you don't want to talk about. 00:06:50.120 --> 00:06:53.030 [ ЛАЙФ ] We'll be handing out papers 00:06:53.080 --> 00:06:57.050 so that you can draw a place where it happened, 00:06:57.100 --> 00:06:59.240 the hospital where you were sterilised. 00:07:16.190 --> 00:07:18.190 [ NILDA ROJAS ] This is the River Ucayali. 00:07:20.030 --> 00:07:23.150 [ NILDA ROJAS ] This is the Amazonico hospital where they sterilised me. 00:07:25.100 --> 00:07:28.230 [ NILDA ROJAS ] I was 38 years old then and I fell pregnant. 00:07:29.060 --> 00:07:32.140 [ NILDA ROJAS ] I was 7 and a half months along. 00:07:32.180 --> 00:07:35.180 [ NILDA ROJAS ] That night, my blood pressure rocketed, 00:07:35.230 --> 00:07:39.080 in the morning, I went to the Amazonico hospital. 00:07:47.230 --> 00:07:51.100 [ NILDA ROJAS ] I was told nothing when they did the C-section. 00:07:52.130 --> 00:07:56.200 [ NILDA ROJAS ] Only when I got to a ward was I told I'd lost my baby. 00:08:02.150 --> 00:08:07.000 [ NILDA ROJAS ] I dreamed about my son as if he hadn't died. 00:08:07.230 --> 00:08:10.140 [ NILDA ROJAS ] I thought about it and saw such dreams. 00:08:12.130 --> 00:08:14.070 [ NILDA ROJAS ] I couldn't sleep... 00:08:14.160 --> 00:08:16.000 [ NILDA ROJAS ] I cried... 00:08:16.110 --> 00:08:18.040 [ NILDA ROJAS ] I'm still in pain 00:08:18.140 --> 00:08:21.040 because of what they did to my baby. 00:08:21.130 --> 00:08:24.070 [ NILDA ROJAS ] I never had a chance to see my little boy. 00:08:27.000 --> 00:08:28.170 [ NILDA ROJAS ] It’s very painful for me 00:08:29.230 --> 00:08:31.230 when I’m asked about it. 00:08:40.040 --> 00:08:42.110 [ NILDA ROJAS ] I can't lift anything heavy. 00:08:42.160 --> 00:08:44.150 [ NILDA ROJAS ] Before, I carried firewood. 00:08:44.220 --> 00:08:49.190 [ NILDA ROJAS ] Now, I can't even do the laundry, and walking is hard. 00:08:53.180 --> 00:08:56.060 [ NILDA ROJAS ] I believe in the shamans. 00:08:56.230 --> 00:09:00.150 [ NILDA ROJAS ] After what happened, I don’t go to hospitals anymore. 00:09:06.090 --> 00:09:13.020 [ The Shaman is singing (titles) ] To everyone who comes to us, 00:09:14.000 --> 00:09:17.100 [ The Shaman is singing (titles) ] We serenade you with our songs, 00:09:17.210 --> 00:09:21.060 [ The Shaman is singing (titles) ] Filling people's souls with joy, 00:09:21.180 --> 00:09:27.220 [ The Shaman is singing (titles) ] Filling with joy the souls of children. 00:09:31.190 --> 00:09:38.190 [ The Shaman is singing (titles) ] Who are filled with sadness and crying. 00:09:39.050 --> 00:09:43.200 [ The Shaman is singing (titles) ] We bring joy to them all, 00:09:44.020 --> 00:09:48.240 And uplift their souls. 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:04.110 [ MARIA AMASIFUEN – SHAMAN ] Only God can take a life. 00:10:04.160 --> 00:10:10.060 [ MARIA AMASIFUEN – SHAMAN ] And we, like all human beings, cannot take human life away. 00:10:10.120 --> 00:10:13.220 [ MARIA AMASIFUEN – SHAMAN ] But that's what the State did. 00:10:16.170 --> 00:10:19.140 [ MARIA AMASIFUEN – SHAMAN ] In my visions I see clearly... 00:10:20.030 --> 00:10:24.130 children sit or stand and cry, they ask for help. 00:10:25.000 --> 00:10:27.170 [ MARIA AMASIFUEN – SHAMAN ] Their souls want release. 00:10:28.070 --> 00:10:29.210 [ MARIA AMASIFUEN – SHAMAN ] They want to live. 00:10:30.010 --> 00:10:33.020 [ MARIA AMASIFUEN – SHAMAN ] Their souls still haven't found peace, 00:10:33.160 --> 00:10:36.190 and with our Icaro songs, 00:10:37.010 --> 00:10:41.060 we're soothing the children's souls. 00:10:47.140 --> 00:10:49.080 [ NILDA ROJAS ] I have 5 children, 00:10:49.160 --> 00:10:53.100 [ NILDA ROJAS ] They have kids now, so I have 13 grandchildren. 00:10:54.030 --> 00:10:55.200 [ NILDA ROJAS ] They give me strength. 00:10:59.220 --> 00:11:02.160 [ NILDA ROJAS ] Yes, I'd like more grandchildren, 00:11:02.210 --> 00:11:05.210 but they aren't having more, I'd like 20 00:11:06.010 --> 00:11:07.090 but I don't know. 00:11:10.230 --> 00:11:14.240 [ NILDA ROJAS ] Could you name the doctors who did that to you? 00:11:16.110 --> 00:11:17.110 [ NILDA ROJAS ] Yes... 00:11:17.160 --> 00:11:20.060 [ NILDA ROJAS ] Yes, the doctor who did it 00:11:20.170 --> 00:11:22.110 was called Dr. Lebu. 00:11:23.130 --> 00:11:24.240 [ NILDA ROJAS ] Barca, Lebu Barca. 00:11:25.160 --> 00:11:29.240 [ NILDA ROJAS ] The other's surname was Ortiz. I don't remember his name. 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:32.240 [ NILDA ROJAS ] My baby. 00:11:38.040 --> 00:11:40.190 [ NILDA ROJAS ] I’m grieving for my baby. 00:11:55.000 --> 00:12:13.000 [ DOCTOR ORTIZ NOW RUNS HIS OWN PRIVATE CLINIC. HE DIDN’T WANT TO GIVE AN INTERVIEW. WE HAD TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT TO MEET HIM ] 00:12:13.140 --> 00:12:18.120 [ ABNER ORTIZ – GYNAECOLOGIST ] No patient we operated on was pregnant. 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:24.190 [ ABNER ORTIZ – GYNAECOLOGIST ] There’s a pre-surgery examination, after which it becomes clear who has indications 00:12:25.010 --> 00:12:28.220 and who has contra-indications for the surgery. 00:12:29.080 --> 00:12:35.100 [ ABNER ORTIZ – GYNAECOLOGIST ] There were no apparent infringements in the hospital. 00:12:35.180 --> 00:12:41.170 [ ABNER ORTIZ – GYNAECOLOGIST ] I’d like to know what kind of infringements the patients are talking about. 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:49.170 [ ABNER ORTIZ – GYNAECOLOGIST ] It's a lie. 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:52.220 [ ABNER ORTIZ – GYNAECOLOGIST ] If there were any cash rewards, 00:12:53.070 --> 00:12:57.170 it would have only been for those who worked in the provinces. 00:12:58.070 --> 00:13:04.070 [ ABNER ORTIZ – GYNAECOLOGIST ] I think they were paid for that, so they took more patients. 00:13:04.140 --> 00:13:09.050 [ ABNER ORTIZ – GYNAECOLOGIST ] But no money came to our hospital for that, we weren't paid. 00:13:10.000 --> 00:13:21.000 [ VO ] - How many children do you have? [ Doctor ] - Oh, I have four… pictures… those are my childs. 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:31.000 [ Doctor ] Those are in the USA. [ Doctor ] My children lived there since 2009. 00:13:32.000 --> 00:13:41.000 [ Doctor ] I work in Pucallpa so I need to help and support, give the money support for them. 00:13:46.180 --> 00:13:50.080 [ CESAR ROMERO – JOURNALIST ] When we published the forced sterilisation investigations, 00:13:50.120 --> 00:13:52.240 people in the communities didn't understand what had happened. 00:13:53.050 --> 00:13:56.220 [ CESAR ROMERO ] It was in the poorest villages with almost no schools. 00:13:57.020 --> 00:14:01.090 [ CESAR ROMERO ] People didn't understand, no one explained anything to them. 00:14:02.120 --> 00:14:05.050 [ CESAR ROMERO ] These are Health Ministry documents, 00:14:05.210 --> 00:14:08.010 which mention 00:14:09.040 --> 00:14:10.160 the campaigns 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:14.070 run for forced sterilisation. 00:14:14.180 --> 00:14:17.220 [ CESAR ROMERO ] They had quotas that had to be met. 00:14:18.050 --> 00:14:20.140 [ CESAR ROMERO ] In the course of 7 months, 00:14:20.190 --> 00:14:24.170 a total of 64,831 women were sterilised. 00:14:24.220 --> 00:14:29.010 That's 43% of the government's plan. 00:14:29.090 --> 00:14:31.080 [ CESAR ROMERO ] Some doctors complained 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:35.080 that too many operations were demanded of them, 00:14:35.180 --> 00:14:37.210 which was impossible. 00:14:38.110 --> 00:14:41.230 [ CESAR ROMERO ] Medical staff were offered various incentives. 00:14:42.030 --> 00:14:46.120 [ CESAR ROMERO ] Sometimes they were paid in cash, sometimes with groceries. 00:14:47.060 --> 00:14:50.050 [ CESAR ROMERO ] This is an official table... 00:14:50.140 --> 00:14:55.240 according to these statistics, 314,605 persons were sterilised 00:14:56.180 --> 00:14:59.060 from 1993 through to 1999. 00:15:08.010 --> 00:15:13.040 [ VICTORIA VIGO ] I don't wish to lessen President Fujimori's achievements. 00:15:13.240 --> 00:15:17.030 [ VICTORIA VIGO ] In '90 and in '95, I voted for him. 00:15:19.020 --> 00:15:21.040 [ VICTORIA VIGO ] I’m not against family planning. 00:15:21.150 --> 00:15:25.030 [ VICTORIA VIGO ] I remember listening to him, thinking, 'Wow, this is great!' 00:15:25.090 --> 00:15:28.170 [ VICTORIA VIGO ] But I never thought I'd be one of them. 00:15:32.140 --> 00:15:34.110 [ VICTORIA VIGO ] After giving birth, 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:37.110 I could heard my baby, 00:15:38.050 --> 00:15:39.200 he cried. 00:15:40.170 --> 00:15:42.240 [ VICTORIA VIGO ] The medics said it was a boy. 00:15:43.080 --> 00:15:46.110 [ VICTORIA VIGO ] I thought I should give my baby some milk, 00:15:46.160 --> 00:15:48.160 and when I wanted to get up, 00:15:49.000 --> 00:15:52.100 [ VICTORIA VIGO ] I was told that my son had died. 00:15:56.000 --> 00:16:00.050 [ VICTORIA VIGO ] The doctor came and asked how old I was. [ VICTORIA VIGO ] I said 30. 00:16:01.010 --> 00:16:07.180 [ VICTORIA VIGO ] He replied, 'You still can have more children, there's no problem. You'll have more children'. 00:16:07.240 --> 00:16:12.110 [ VICTORIA VIGO ] But another doctor, who was standing beside him, said, 'no... 00:16:13.010 --> 00:16:14.200 she was sterilised'. 00:16:15.140 --> 00:16:20.000 [ VICTORIA VIGO ] The accused had no interest in the victim's consent. 00:16:20.050 --> 00:16:24.010 [ VICTORIA VIGO ] He had no right to decide how many children they had. 00:16:24.090 --> 00:16:27.010 [ VICTORIA VIGO ] That was the state policy at the time. 00:16:27.060 --> 00:16:30.160 [ VICTORIA VIGO ] The court sentenced him to 4 years in prison. 00:16:31.090 --> 00:16:37.090 [ VICTORIA VIGO ] This is the verdict, which was the result of 4 years of struggle in Piura court. 00:16:37.210 --> 00:16:39.120 Señora Chief Justice 00:16:40.050 --> 00:16:41.190 declared that... 00:16:43.080 --> 00:16:47.040 harm had indeed been done to my health. 00:16:47.220 --> 00:16:50.210 [ VICTORIA VIGO ] How many other women won similar cases? 00:16:51.010 --> 00:16:52.010 [ VICTORIA VIGO ] None. 00:16:53.120 --> 00:16:55.090 [ VICTORIA VIGO ] I was the only one to win. 00:16:55.210 --> 00:16:58.110 [ VICTORIA VIGO ] The case was opened under Fujimori, 00:16:59.080 --> 00:17:02.010 but won after Fujimori resigned. 00:17:05.000 --> 00:17:44.000 [ IN 2007, ALBERTO FUJIMORI WAS GIVEN A 6 YEAR PRISON SENTENCE FOR ABUSE OF POWER ] [ IN 2009, HE WAS ACCUSED OF CORRUPTION AND ORGANIZING ‘DEATH SQUADS’ ] [ HIS PRISON TERM WAS EXTENDED TO 25 YEARS. FUJIMORI’S PARTY WAS HEADED BY HIS DAUGHTER, KEIKO ] [ SHE IS ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR POLITICIANS IN PERU AND RAN TWICE FOR PRESIDENT ] [ HER PARTY HAS A MAJORITY IN THE PERUVIAN PARLIAMENT ] [ KEIKO FUJIMORI MANAGED TO PERSUADE PERU’S PRESIDENT PEDRO KUCZYNSKI TO CONSIDER AN AMNESTY HER FATHER ] [ FUJIMORI’S OPPONENTS ARE PREPARING FOR PROTEST ] 00:17:45.130 --> 00:17:48.190 [ VICTORIA VIGO ] You see the blood of our dead children 00:17:48.240 --> 00:17:54.110 and the blood of 16 women who died because of the sterilisation. 00:17:57.020 --> 00:17:59.080 [ VICTORIA VIGO ] I won my case against the doctor, 00:17:59.130 --> 00:18:04.080 but I protest against hospital management, the dean of medicine, 00:18:04.160 --> 00:18:07.070 the Minister and against Fujimori. 00:18:08.140 --> 00:18:13.210 [ VICTORIA VIGO ] Because there are many more women who I am told are afraid to come forward. 00:18:14.040 --> 00:18:16.160 [ VICTORIA VIGO ] For many years, I was their voice, 00:18:17.010 --> 00:18:19.180 and for many years I will support them. LIMATAMBO 00:18:36.010 --> 00:18:38.110 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] I've made a meal for my husband. 00:18:39.090 --> 00:18:42.040 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] It's time to take him his lunch. 00:18:46.200 --> 00:18:50.090 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] A year after what happened I started getting ill, 00:18:50.210 --> 00:18:53.000 one infection after another. 00:18:53.150 --> 00:18:56.030 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] Then I found out that I had cancer. 00:18:59.000 --> 00:19:02.110 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] Once my husband said to me when he was drunk, 00:19:02.170 --> 00:19:04.150 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] 'We're just working for you! 00:19:04.180 --> 00:19:06.100 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] We spend all our money on you! 00:19:06.140 --> 00:19:09.060 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] Why aren't you dead already? [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] Why won't you die?' 00:19:11.230 --> 00:19:18.040 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] My whole body burnt from my lower back downwards. 00:19:18.130 --> 00:19:20.140 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] I was covered with blisters and sores. 00:19:21.030 --> 00:19:23.000 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] The burning sensation was unbearable. 00:19:24.050 --> 00:19:26.180 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] I asked, ‘Dear God, please take me away from here! 00:19:26.240 --> 00:19:29.140 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] Why do I suffer like this every night and day?’ 00:19:29.230 --> 00:19:36.230 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] Why does my body hurt so much? [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] Why does my belly hurt? 00:19:37.030 --> 00:19:41.210 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] I asked my children to give me poison so that I could take it and die. 00:19:42.010 --> 00:19:45.120 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] We had poison that we sprinkled on potato plants. 00:19:45.170 --> 00:19:49.110 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] 'Give me this stuff and maté tea', I told my children. 00:19:50.140 --> 00:19:53.100 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] One of them understood everything, 'No!' 00:19:53.220 --> 00:19:55.180 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] 'Don’t give it to her, 00:19:55.230 --> 00:19:57.110 Mum wants to die!' 00:19:57.160 --> 00:20:00.060 said my son as he lunged at his brother. 00:20:01.030 --> 00:20:03.030 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] I couldn't bear the pain. 00:20:03.180 --> 00:20:05.190 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] I was just lying on my bed, 00:20:05.240 --> 00:20:08.160 lying on my bed and nothing more. 00:20:09.030 --> 00:20:11.080 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] My husband went out to drink. 00:20:12.120 --> 00:20:14.150 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] 'Die', he'd say, 00:20:14.210 --> 00:20:17.170 'die, and I'll feed you to the hounds'. 00:20:23.020 --> 00:20:25.120 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] Soup for my husband. 00:20:26.010 --> 00:20:28.130 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] It must be hot, or he won't eat it. 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:33.190 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] I have to hurry, 00:20:34.140 --> 00:20:36.220 I must take soup to my husband. 00:20:58.180 --> 00:21:02.060 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] My husband has problems with his legs. 00:21:03.020 --> 00:21:05.220 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] He has difficulty walking now, he's disabled. 00:21:06.030 --> 00:21:08.230 he can’t walk very far. 00:21:09.210 --> 00:21:12.030 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] Also, he doesn’t have any teeth anymore. 00:21:12.110 --> 00:21:15.160 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] So he only eats corn, he can’t eat meat any more. 00:21:15.230 --> 00:21:18.080 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] I’m worried about his health. 00:21:51.000 --> 00:21:56.000 PUCALLPA Workshop – Day Two 00:21:29.170 --> 00:21:32.140 [ ЛАЙФ ] You'll be registered and some may be 00:21:32.190 --> 00:21:38.030 diagnosed with cervical or other types of cancer. 00:21:38.120 --> 00:21:43.130 [ ЛАЙФ ] That's due to your operations not being performed properly. 00:21:43.190 --> 00:21:46.220 [ ЛАЙФ ] Irreparable harm was done, treatment cost you money. 00:21:47.020 --> 00:21:49.160 [ ЛАЙФ ] Now the state must pay your expenses. 00:21:58.010 --> 00:22:01.130 [ MILENA VASQUEZ ] I think that because of the harm they did to me, 00:22:01.180 --> 00:22:04.160 I will report the people who did it. 00:22:04.210 --> 00:22:09.040 [ MILENA VASQUEZ ] I'll file a suit against the government of the time. 00:22:10.090 --> 00:22:11.120 [ MILENA VASQUEZ ] I hope... 00:22:12.120 --> 00:22:14.030 they'll be made to pay 00:22:14.080 --> 00:22:16.210 for the harm they did to our bodies. 00:22:21.090 --> 00:22:24.190 [ MARTHA CHAVEZ President of Peru Congress, 1995-1996 ] When President Fujimori began his second term, 00:22:24.240 --> 00:22:27.080 huge pressure was put on him 00:22:27.130 --> 00:22:31.060 and the government to permit sterilisation. 00:22:32.140 --> 00:22:36.140 [ MARTHA CHAVEZ ] This programme was even financed, 00:22:36.240 --> 00:22:38.220 financed from outside, 00:22:39.040 --> 00:22:43.020 including the USA's International Development Agency. 00:22:43.110 --> 00:22:48.050 [ MARTHA CHAVEZ ] Those funds were also received by many NGOs, 00:22:48.230 --> 00:22:51.080 pro-feminist women's groups. 00:22:51.170 --> 00:22:54.180 [ MARTHA CHAVEZ ] I think some of the NGOs that took part in 00:22:55.000 --> 00:22:57.110 and promoted the idea, 00:22:57.160 --> 00:23:00.130 later decided to dent the government’s reputation 00:23:00.180 --> 00:23:03.020 and they started preparing people 00:23:03.070 --> 00:23:05.110 to go public about forced sterilisation. 00:23:07.050 --> 00:23:09.080 [ MARTHA CHAVEZ ] 'If you say this or that, 00:23:09.210 --> 00:23:12.110 you'll be given compensation'. 00:23:12.180 --> 00:23:15.190 [ MARTHA CHAVEZ ] So some people give in to influence like that. 00:23:21.050 --> 00:23:24.220 [ NILDA ROJAS ] We'll go further, we will fight for... 00:23:25.240 --> 00:23:30.070 justice and we'll demand that they answer for what they did. 00:23:32.070 --> 00:23:34.030 [ NILDA ROJAS ] I'm not afraid anymore. 00:23:34.080 --> 00:23:37.000 [ NILDA ROJAS ] This workshop has given me strength. 00:23:37.190 --> 00:23:39.020 [ NILDA ROJAS ] I'm not afraid, 00:23:39.180 --> 00:23:41.040 I will keep going. 00:23:56.020 --> 00:23:58.110 [ MILENA VASQUEZ ] I want to ask what should we do, 00:23:58.160 --> 00:24:02.080 what can we do if we were forcibly sterilised? 00:24:02.190 --> 00:24:07.030 [ Руд ] She has come for information about what steps she can take 00:24:07.090 --> 00:24:11.110 to declare that she was a victim of forced sterilisation. 00:24:11.160 --> 00:24:15.020 [ Woman ] First she needs to collect the right documents 00:24:15.070 --> 00:24:18.170 so that prosecutors at the Ministry of Justice 00:24:18.220 --> 00:24:22.010 can register her as a victim and open a case. 00:24:23.190 --> 00:24:27.120 [ Руд ] - Do you have the documents here? [ MILENA VASQUEZ ] - Of course. 00:24:28.020 --> 00:24:30.010 [ Woman ] - Name? [ MILENA VASQUEZ ] - Milena. 00:24:30.230 --> 00:24:33.200 [ Woman ] - Year of birth, Milena? [ MILENA VASQUEZ ] - 1961. 00:24:35.160 --> 00:24:38.140 [ Woman ] - Number of children? [ Woman ] - How many children? 00:24:40.140 --> 00:24:41.140 [ MILENA VASQUEZ ] Five. 00:24:43.010 --> 00:24:45.040 [ Woman ] Ethnic group? 00:24:45.190 --> 00:24:47.090 [ MILENA VASQUEZ ] Shipibo. 00:24:47.170 --> 00:24:49.060 [ Woman ] School? 00:24:49.210 --> 00:24:51.000 [ MILENA VASQUEZ ] Primary. 00:24:51.060 --> 00:24:52.110 [ Woman ] - Complete? [ MILENA VASQUEZ ] - Yes. 00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:06.000 LIMA 00:24:59.050 --> 00:25:00.170 [ ЛАЙФ ] forgiveness! 00:25:00.220 --> 00:25:02.160 [ ЛАЙФ ] No pardon! 00:25:02.230 --> 00:25:04.190 [ ЛАЙФ ] How many of us are there? 00:25:05.000 --> 00:25:07.090 [ ЛАЙФ ] We are 300,000 00:25:07.140 --> 00:25:09.230 and even more! 00:25:10.050 --> 00:25:12.140 [ ЛАЙФ ] We are the peasant daughters 00:25:12.190 --> 00:25:15.030 that you couldn't sterilise! 00:25:19.130 --> 00:25:22.160 [ VICTORIA VIGO ] We are opposed to the idea of amnesty for Alberto Fujimori, 00:25:23.000 --> 00:25:26.120 because he has never admitted what he did to us. 00:25:26.200 --> 00:25:31.090 [ VICTORIA VIGO ] He is guilty towards us but he wasn’t condemned after all. 00:25:31.150 --> 00:25:35.060 [ VICTORIA VIGO ] We consider it unfair that they 00:25:35.110 --> 00:25:40.190 want to free someone who violated human rights, embezzled and murdered. 00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:43.120 [ VICTORIA VIGO ] Later, he fell ill and they want to free him. 00:25:44.030 --> 00:25:45.120 [ ЛАЙФ ] What do we demand? 00:25:45.170 --> 00:25:48.090 [ ЛАЙФ ] Justice! Compensation! Now! 00:25:48.180 --> 00:25:51.100 [ ЛАЙФ ] Justice! Compensation! Now! 00:25:55.100 --> 00:26:00.000 [ VICTORIA VIGO ] It's a way of demonstrating that we're opposed to impunity. 00:26:00.080 --> 00:26:04.040 [ VICTORIA VIGO ] I'm sure this march is a positive step. 00:26:04.130 --> 00:26:06.130 [ VICTORIA VIGO ] All of us, the people, 00:26:06.240 --> 00:26:09.140 are making ourselves heard. 00:26:19.090 --> 00:26:20.180 [ MARTHA CHÁVEZ ] Don't be deceived. 00:26:21.050 --> 00:26:23.040 [ MARTHA CHÁVEZ ] I'm a believer... 00:26:24.070 --> 00:26:27.060 [ MARTHA CHÁVEZ ] The Supreme Judge sees all and knows all. 00:26:28.070 --> 00:26:29.240 [ MARTHA CHÁVEZ ] They should remember. 00:26:30.100 --> 00:26:34.240 [ MARTHA CHÁVEZ ] They may delude themselves and others, but not the Supreme Judge. 00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:42.170 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] We're still marginalised, 00:26:42.220 --> 00:26:45.090 we've always been marginalised. 00:26:45.140 --> 00:26:51.010 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] 'These women are depraved and barren, it's just to go around with other men. 00:26:51.060 --> 00:26:53.070 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] They're a laughing stock'. 00:26:53.220 --> 00:26:56.000 [ JOSEFA QUISPE ] Everyone derides us. 00:27:05.020 --> 00:27:08.050 [ JAIME SUAREZ ] I heard that a court case, 00:27:08.110 --> 00:27:10.050 was being opened on the issue, but... 00:27:10.130 --> 00:27:13.210 [ JAIME SUAREZ ] I don’t believe there’s justice.