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[ GEO ] ZAMBOANGA,
PHILIPPINE NAVY BASE

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[ VO ] Jaffar and Abdullah
are former ISIS fighters,

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and they’re now boarding
a Philippine Naval ship.

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[ Abdullah ]The marines
invited us to Sulu.

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TERRORIST VIDEO

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[ Abdullah ]I joined ISIS when I was
16, there were a lot of guys like me...

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more than...

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... eighty.

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[ Correspondent ] Have you
killed anyone before? Who?

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[ Abdullah ]A Christian.

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CRISIS CHILDHOOD

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[ GEO ] SAGUIARAN, PHILIPPINES

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[ Jaffar ]I am 14.

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[ Jaffar ]What's my job? I
work in a barbecue placeЮ

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[ JAFFAR AGED 14 ]And I have a side job
as a driver I make barbecue chicken now.

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[ Jaffar ]I get up at six

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I start preparing chicken.

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[ Jaffar ]We sell them. At about three, after
lunch, we go home. I make 150 pesos ($2.86) a day.

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[ VO ]The business owner knows
Jaffar spent time with ISIS but his

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friends and acquaintances don’t,
he keeps his past hidden from them.

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[ Correspondent ]Why didn't
holding a weapon scare you?

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[ Jaffar ]Well, my dad sold me
so no one cared if I lived or died

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[ Correspondent ]How did
you hear that he'd sold you?

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[ Jaffar ]Our commander told me.

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[ Correspondent ]How
much did he get for you?

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[ Jaffar ]23,000 pesos
($438) I was only 12.

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[ Correspondent ]How many
of you, do you remember?

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[ Jaffar ]Twenty-four.

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[ Correspondent ]What did you do with a
weapon? Did they trust you with a weapon?

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[ Jaffar ]I was meant to kill.

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TERRORIST VIDEO

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[ VO ]The Filipino subdivision of
ISIS calls itself the Abu Sayyaf group

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and it’s based around Mindanao,
Basilan and the Sulu islands. Its goal

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is to establish an independent
Muslim Caliphate in the Philippines. It’s

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known that they use large numbers
of children in combat, as human

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shields, suicide bombers, and as
donors to treat wounded adult fighters.

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[ GEO ] PHILIPPINE NAVY VESSEL

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[ VO ]After almost 24 hours at sea on route to
visit the marines, Jaffar and Abdullah still don’t know

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what’s waiting for them. They’re transferred from
one naval ship to another and the voyage continues.

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[ ABDULLAH, AGED 17 ]Not of those who have
evoked Your anger or of those who are astray…

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[ GEO ]LUMBACATOROS VILLAGE

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[ VO ]This is Abdullah’s home village. It was
his own uncle who sold him to ISIS, that’s him.

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[ Faisal ]This is our room, it's where we sleep. These
are my kids' books. I have some school awards there.

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[ VO ]The uncle didn’t just sell
his nephew but also his son.

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[ Faisal ]This is my son Kahir, he
died on June 10. He was 10 years old.

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[ VO ]He says that men in black
came and asked for his children. They

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promised to teach them Arabic. He
claims he had no idea it was a trap.

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[ FAISAL ABDULLAH'S UNCLE ]They
said that they would teach the

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kids, but in reality the children
were actually recruited by ISIS.

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[ Faisal ]They paid as much as 25,000 pesos and
another 25,000 for my nephew, Abdullah.

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[ Faisal ]For them both, a total
of about 900 dollars.

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[ Ashlia ]Pass me those clothesЮ

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[ ASHLIA ABDULLAH'S AUNT ]I think my husband
wanted to hide it, he didn't want anyone to know.

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[ Ashlia ]We had a fight when he didn't tell the
truth. He didn't want to admit he'd taken the money.

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[ Ashlia ]Goods of all kinds:

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turnips and aubergines...

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cigarettes and peanuts…

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[ Ashlia ]I am a laundress, so... I can
make up to 300 pesos ($5.7) a day.

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[ Ashlia ]That's enough
to buy some rice.

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[ Ashlia ]Sometimes I make 400
pesos ($7.6), that's not much money.

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[ Ashlia ]We grow some stuff and sell it at the
market We do whatever it takes to get some food.

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[ Ashlia ]Sometimes we
do... sometimes we don't.

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[ Ashlia ]Let's plant it somewhere
else? [ Abdullah ]Or here?

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[ Ashlia ]Let's see...Here?

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[ VO ]Abdullah says he never saw
his cousin at the ISIS camp and hadn’t

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heard anything of Kahir, about
where he was or what he was doing.

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[ Ashlia ]Tell them that you’re mad at uncle
Faisal because he sold you two to ISIS.

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[ Abdullah ] Yes, at first I was mad at him. I thought we were
going off to school. And we ended up in an ISIS training camp.

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[ Correspondent ]How do you
feel about your cousin's death?

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[ Ashlia ]What can he say?

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[ Abdullah ] Bad.

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[ Correspondent ] What's bad?
[ Abdullah ] That's how I feel.

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[ Abdullah ] I was scared.

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[ Abdullah ] I couldn't sleep.

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[ Abdullah ] I thought
we were going to die.

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[ Abdullah ] I wanted...
to get out of there.

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[ Abdullah ] I couldn't eat
properly at the camp because...

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we thought of the training

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and the battles ahead I
used to wake up at 3 am or so.

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[ Abdullah ] Drills started
as soon as we were up

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[ Abdullah ] The other guys
cooked while I collected wood.

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[ Abdullah ] We ran around...

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and carried weapons.

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[ Abdullah ] All praise is to Allah, Lord
of the worlds, The Entirely Merciful,

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the Especially Merciful, Sovereign
of the Day of Recompense

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[ GEO ]PHILIPPINE NAVY VESSEL

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[ Jaffar ]I'll never forget
killing a Christian.

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They ordered us to kill
and they threatened usЮ

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[ GEO ]SAGUIARAN, PHILIPPINES

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PRINCESS, 13 YEARS

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[ VO ]At 13, Princess already knows about betrayal.
Her father didn’t sell her, he betrayed her; he joined ISIS.

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[ Salma ]Sometimes, when classmates ask my
daughter about her dad, she tells them he's dead.

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[ SALMA PRINCESS' MOTHER ]She
doesn't admit that her dad's here,

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otherwise other kids would say,

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'Princess, we never knew your
dad was a kidnapper and a killer'.

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[ 'Princess ]They keep asking me:
'Why don’t you want to tell us about it?'

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[ 'Princess ]And one time I told
them that my father was dead.

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[ 'Princess ]They
asked: ‘How did he die?’

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[ 'Princess ]And I said that I didn’t
have to tell them, that it was a secret.

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[ Salma ]You have milkfish?

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[ Salma ]How much?
[ Seller ]200 pesos ($3.8)

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[ Salma ]I'll have that small
one, please clean and cut it.

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[ Salma ]The kids keep asking where their
dad is, what he's doing and where he's working.

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[ Salma ]I never tell my children the
truth... but they'll find out one day.

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COURTESY OF THE PHILIPPINE ARMY

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[ Salma ]I feel so
bad for my children.

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[ Salma ]Sometimes they ask for some money,
and I don't have it. I try to make ends meet.

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[ Salma ]I do laundry for relatives so I can make
a little money, to at least give them something.

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[ Salma ]He picked up
bad habits. He changed.

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[ Salma ]He wasn't the man
I married, Jabar M. Kapal.

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[ Salma ]Before the war broke out,

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two months before
the siege of Marawi,

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he called me on the phone.

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[ Salma ]He told me he'd joined
ISIS and he was a commander.

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[ VO ]On May 23, 2017, jihadists captured
Marawi city in the centre of Mindanao island.

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[ VO ]Militants smashed their way into the
police station and helped themselves to weapons

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and ammunition. They beheaded the chief
of police and shot all the other policemen.

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[ VO ]Because Government forces were unprepared
for the attack, the battle for Marawi against the

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terrorists continued until mid-October.
Everyone in this story fought on the side of ISIS:

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Princess’ father, Jabar M. Kapal, who was an
ISIS unit commander as well as 13-year old Jaffar

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and 10-year old Kahir… Abdullah claims that
he’d been able to escape before the battle began.

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[ Princess ]During the siege of Marawi, we
were told that a group of people attacked Marawi.

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[ Princess ]I think these
were ISIS groups. And

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someone said that
my father joined them.

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[ Princess ]It can’t
be, I don’t believe it.

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[ Salma ]They spent 10 days in Marawi.

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[ Salma ]Yes, at the very
beginning of this siege.

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[ Salma ]Then they managed to
leave, some of them died.

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[ Salma ]We don't talk to anyone
now, we don't stay in touch.

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[ Salma ]Well, Princess calls her dad from
time to time but he never answers.

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[ Salma ]I'll try. I'll call him
now. I hope he

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hasn't changed his
number and picks up.

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[ Salma ]Can you talk to him? Will you?

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[ Princess ]Hello. Dad?

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[ Princess ]Hello.

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[ Princess ]Dad?

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[ Princess ]Where are you?

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[ Princess ]Are you OK?

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[ Princess ]It's good
that you're OK.

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[ Princess ]I want my
father to return to us.

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[ Princess ]So that our
family was complete again.

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[ GEO ]SULU SEA, PHILIPPINES

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[ VO ]The Naval vessel has
reached Sulu islands, an area that’s

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off-limits for tourists, and Jaffar
and Abdullah are taken ashore.

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[ Jaffar ]I keep wondering, why Dad sold me
for 23,000 pesos ($438) He took money for me.

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[ Jaffar ]And I haven't
heard from him ever since.

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I’m scared, so, I can’t speak about myself. I’m
afraid to say too much about my time with ISIS.

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[ GEO ]SAGUIARAN, REFUGEE CAMP

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[ VO ]Jaffar says he fought for three days in Marawi
before he escaped. The Army captured him but, because

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he’s a minor, he was soon released. Now he’s alone
and unwanted, with no money, no home and no family.

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[ VO ]His only relative in the city is
an aunt who lives in the refugee camp.

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[ Jaffar’s aunt ]What's going
on, anything to tell me?

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[ Jaffar ]I haven't seen
you for such a long time.

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[ Jaffar’s aunt ]Because
you don't love me.

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[ Correspondent ]Tell us about when
Jaffar’s father decided to sell him?

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[ Jaffar’s aunt ]His
life is a misery.

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[ Jaffar’s aunt ]His father made him join ISIS.

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[ Jaffar’s aunt ]I was in constant fear... that he'd
be killed. But, thank God, he survived.

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[ Jaffar’s aunt ]Did he talk about his escape? I'm
still afraid they'll take revenge on him.

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[ JAFFAR– FORMER ISIS
MEMBER ]I'm here and I didn't die.

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[ Jaffar ]I'm still afraid.

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[ Jaffar ]I'm still afraid that they will come
for me, because of everything I did.

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[ Jaffar ]Sometimes I hide.

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[ Jaffar ]I don't know what
to do with my life.

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[ Jaffar ]I just can't think about it.

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[ Jaffar ]I don't have anything,

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[ Jaffar ]I have no parents.

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[ VO ]They may look like Paradise but
these idyllic landscapes are misleading.

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Sulu islands serve as a Southern
base for Aby Sayyaf terrorists.

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[ GEO ]SULU ISLANDS, NAVY BASE

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[ VO ]It’s where the Philippines Marine Corps chose
to hold a special youth tournament, Football for peace.

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[ VO ]It’s also where Jaffar
and Abdullah’s journey will end.

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[ VO ]More than a thousand children will
take part in the competition, they’re coming

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from all the nearby islands and villages,
or barangays, as they’re called here.

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[ VO ]Military personnel say this place is
geographically isolated and depressing.

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[ STEPHEN CABANLET LT.COLONEL ]We’re the only
government representatives who can be here. No one else.

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[ Stephen ]It is the place where Abu Sayyaf
terrorists are taking kidnapped children.

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[ Stephen ]And if we don’t
fight for these children, they will

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be recruited by ISIS or
other terrorists like them.

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[ Jaffar ]There are so many guys, all watching and waiting to play,
and I don't even have any gear. I don't have decent sneakers.

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[ Voice ]You can be goalie.

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[ Voice ]He'll be goalie, he has a
cough. Your main goal is a clean sheet.

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[ Translator ]What's
wrong? Oh! They're too big?

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[ Translator ]Oh,
they came undone.

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[ Translator ]Tie them properly,
like that, so they don't come undone

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[ Jaffar ]They came undone
because they're not my shoes.

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[ VO ]It turns out that neither Jaffar nor
Abdullah have ever played football before.

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[ VO ]Jaffar concedes a goal after the very first shot; he
removes his gloves and leaves the pitch with Abdullah close

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behind. They refuse to play anymore and became spectators
instead. Abdullah even hides behind an officials’ table.

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[ Man ] Have you ever played before?
[ Abdullah ] I only played basketball.

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[ Man ]Basketball? This game is like basketball. There
are five players in basketball, right? In this game, it is 9.

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[ Man ]So Jaffar, let's
go and play a little?

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[ Translator ]They'll show
you how. OK? Don't be shy.

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[ Man ] Let’s go then.

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[ Translator ] He said ‘yes’.
[ Man ] Ok, let’s go then.

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[ Trainer ]In basketball, the court is always the
same. Football pitches vary with the number of players.

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[ Trainer ]For five a side, it's this big If it's bigger,
it'll be seven a side and this long, it's nine a side.

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[ Trainer ]It’s a natural
reaction. They’re tired.

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[ Trainer ]But they definitely
have the potential to play football.

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[ Trainer ]Everyone is entitled to a
second chance. They are as well.

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[ VO ]For the first time, former ISIS members, Jaffar
and Abdulla, have simple boyish smiles on their faces.

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[ GEO ] LUMBACATOROS VILLAGE

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[ Correspondent ]How did you feel when you
heard that your child was going through ISIS training?

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[ Faisal ]Of course, I was scared.

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[ Correspondent ]How did you find
out that your son was in Marawi?

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[ Correspondent ]That he
was fighting in the battle there?

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[ Faisal ]He called me. [ Correspondent ]
And what did your son tell you?

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[ Faisal ]He said: 'Dad, we're here, inside. I
told you before we're with ISIS and it's true,

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they make us carry weapons'.

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[ Faisal ]And then…

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[ Faisal ]They said:
'We're hiding in here!'

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[ Faisal ]And when the rescuers went in, I shouted
to him and he replied like this… He waved to me

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[ Faisal ]Of course, I was happy.

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[ Faisal ]I saw him. I saw
that my son was alive.

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[ Faisal ]I called to
him, 'Come here'.

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[ Faisal ]And he threw
his weapon away.

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[ Correspondent ]Do you regret selling your
son? Taking money to make him do that training?

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[ Faisal ]Yes, of course,
I do Now I regret it.

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[ VO ]Their son survived, the father did
manage to bring his son home but 10-year old

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Kahir died two months later. It wasn’t the
war that killed him, but his memories of it.

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[ Ashlia ]Many men in
Piagapo were talked into giving

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away their 10-year-old kids
12 to 15 year olds joined ISIS.

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[ Correspondent ]Did your son say anything
about what went on in there? Did he talk about it?

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[ Ashlia ]The one
that died? Oh no, he

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wasn't himself, he
was a different person.

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[ Ashlia ]He was crying

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[ Ashlia ]He hid all the time. He
seemed to hear lots of different sounds.

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[ Ashlia ]We couldn't talk to him, he
just wrapped himself up in a blanket.

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[ Ashlia ]That was it. It was
as if he was really scared.

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[ Correspondent ]Did he die there?

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[ Ashlia ]No, he died at home

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[ VO ]The parents
visit their son’s grave.

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[ VO ]Abdullah hasn’t come to the cemetery. Perhaps, he
feared going mad too, just like his 10-years old cousin, Kahir.

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[ Faisal ]Of course,
I'm head of the family.

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[ Faisal ]It was because I
couldn't take proper care of him.

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[ Faisal ]I failed to guide
him, perhaps that's why.

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[ Faisal ]I wish you
could forgive me.

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[ Ashlia ]I'll make
myself forgive.

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[ Ashlia ]I need to work hard,

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whatever way life turns out...

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good and evil both exist

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[ GEO ] SULU ISLANDS NAVY BASE

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[ VO ]Jaffar’s cough is getting worse and
after the football match, he’s taken to a doctor.

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[ Translator ]Have you
been coughing for a while?

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[ Doctor ]Maybe it's asthma?
Breathe in. It may be asthma.

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[ Doctor ]His right… No, his left side… I
don't think air is getting through to the lung.

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[ Doctor ]Your cough
sounds awful from the back.

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[ VO ]The football tournament comes to a close with the
opening of a Memorial to all of the marines who fell in battle.

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[ VO ]The gunfire almost
makes Jaffar pass out.

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[ Translator ]You're not in Marawi but
in Sulu You have companions here...

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... look. Let's go there for a
minute because it's raining, OK?

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[ Translator ]Are you OK now?

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[ Translator ]Didn't I
say to just let it out?