WEBVTT @ This file written with the Avid Caption plugin, version 1 00:00:07.00 --> 00:00:14.00 [ TITLES IN 2018, THE MAIN MIGRATION ROUTE FROM MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRIES TO EUROPE CHANGED. REFUGEES BEGAN TO CROSS OVER TO THE EU THROUGH BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA. THE TOWN OF BIHAC ON THE CROATIAN BORDER IS ON THEIR WAY ] 00:00:20.18 --> 00:00:27.08 [ Sej Ramic Protest leader ] They're stuck in something they call 'The Game' 00:00:35.09 --> 00:00:36.14 [ Ale Siljdedic Spokesman, Una-Sana Canton Ministry of Internal Affairs ] Yes, 'game' 00:00:36.15 --> 00:00:38.15 [ Ale Siljdedic ] You can understand why, 00:00:38.16 --> 00:00:45.05 because it's a game played between the police of Bosnia-Herzegovina and the Croatian police 00:00:48.00 --> 00:00:53.00 [ Nabih Rihani acting team leader ] It really looks like a game, you know. [ Nabih Rihani ] Like, this game is said, 00:00:53.00 --> 00:00:55.00 ‘I lost this game when he returns back.’ 00:01:00.03 --> 00:01:01.18 [ LIVE Muhammad Afzal ] That's the target: 00:01:01.19 --> 00:01:07.00 if you achieve it, you win, if you don't, game over 00:01:17.00 --> 00:01:21.00 GAME OVER THE BORDER 00:01:23.22 --> 00:01:29.12 [ Šuhret Fazlić Bihać mayor ] Bihac is the capital of the Una-Sana Canton 00:01:32.09 --> 00:01:37.14 [ Šuhret Fazlić ] It's an old town, first mentioned in 1262 00:01:37.15 --> 00:01:47.12 [ Šuhret Fazlić ] Its economy is now based on agriculture, tourism, and the woodworking industry 00:01:48.02 --> 00:01:51.18 [ Šuhret Fazlić ] It's situated close to Austria and Italy 00:01:51.19 --> 00:01:54.02 [ Šuhret Fazlić ] We have a border with Croatia 00:01:54.13 --> 00:02:00.17 [ Šuhret Fazlić ] About this time last year, the first migrants began to appear in Bihac, 00:02:00.18 --> 00:02:02.21 so sometime in late February 00:02:16.00 --> 00:02:22.00 BIRA Migrant Centre Capacity – 2,500 people Filled to capacity 00:02:20:00 00:02:23:00 [ LIVE ] I want just to show you how… because the immigrants first they 00:02:23:00 00:02:27:00 come here, come to our security people. [ LIVE ] We have a Motorola(?) between… 00:02:27:00 00:02:30:00 our connection between us and the security. [ LIVE ] And the security, 00:02:31.00 --> 00:02:35.00 he calls us. [ LIVE ] He says that please, come. [ LIVE ] One of the immigrants is 00:02:36:00 --> 00:02:41:00 --> is here on the gate. [ LIVE ] So one of us, one of immigrant assistants, 00:02:42:00 --> 00:02:46:00 --> like my colleagues or me, or anyone(??)… just come and take this 00:02:47.00 --> 00:02:52.00 man with him and we take him to our main office here entrance. 00:02:54:00 00:02:58 :00 [ Nabih Rihani acting team leader ] This building, its name was BIRA, a part of the famous very known 00:02:59:00 --> 00:03:04:00 --> Slovenian company Gorenje. [ Nabih Rihani ] It had, sometimes it used to have even 00:03:04:00 --> 00:03:09:00 --> 600 or 700 of labours. [ Nabih Rihani ] But unfortunately, after the war, 00:03:10:00 --> 00:03:14:00 --> many of the factories, most of the factories almost collapsed. 00:03:15.00 --> 00:03:22.00 [ Nabih Rihani ] This was a good choice to have our immigrants in this huge building, 00:03:22.00 --> 00:03:25.00 you know. [ Nabih Rihani ] Because the number of immigrants is very big. 00:03:20.00 --> 00:03:22.00 NABIH RIHANI ACTING TEAM LEADER 00:03:30.11 --> 00:03:32.18 [ Bahman Mousalou ] Migration is a poem of fear 00:03:33.01 --> 00:03:38.04 I'm sure it's the kind of poem in which the heroes are so brave and courageous, 00:03:38.05 --> 00:03:42.02 they can banish all from their hearts 00:03:42.03 --> 00:03:46.19 [ Bahman Mousalou ] They can look at their house, street, and town for the last time, 00:03:46.20 --> 00:03:51.12 and walk away with just a few material things 00:03:54.20 --> 00:04:00.04 I usually wake up at 10am and wash up 00:04:00.12 --> 00:04:02.22 [ Bahman Mousalou ] Then I wake the other guys 00:04:02.23 --> 00:04:06.24 and we go to the canteen for breakfast 00:04:09.11 --> 00:04:14.06 [ Bahman Mousalou ] There's a lot of seats in the canteen, like in a roadside restaurant 00:04:14.07 --> 00:04:18.04 [ Bahman Mousalou ] We eat quickly to free up places for other migrants 00:04:18.09 --> 00:04:24.15 [ Bahman Mousalou ] After breakfast, the Pakistani guys start frying and steaming, preparing their food 00:04:26.17 --> 00:04:33.09 [ Bahman Mousalou ] Some emigrants, mainly Afghanis and Pakistanis, hang out in their own groups outside the camp 00:04:33.10 --> 00:04:38.22 [ Bahman Mousalou ] Some talk on the phone, or cook food inside the camp to sell it 00:04:40.18 --> 00:04:43.04 [ Bahman Mousalou ] And some just sleep until evening 00:04:46.00 --> 00:04:50.00 [ Bahman Mousalou ] I wrote about what’s happened to us on the way, why we left our 00:04:51.00 --> 00:04:56.00 our country. [ Bahman Mousalou ] What’s the problem of the migrants, what’s the 00:04:57.00 --> 00:05:00.00 situation, how we spend our days, how we spend our nights. 00:04:48.00 --> 00:04:52.00 BAHMAN MOUSALOU REFUGEE 00:05:06.00 --> 00:05:11.00 [ Nabih Rihani acting team leader ] These are the tents. [ Nabih Rihani ] They have double beds all over. [ Nabih Rihani ] They like 00:05:11.00 --> 00:05:15.00 their privacy, you know. [ Nabih Rihani ] We give them this to put it on the matrass. 00:05:16.00 --> 00:05:21.00 [ Nabih Rihani ] But they use it here to have their own privacy. [ Nabih Rihani ] Here you can see 00:05:22.00 --> 00:05:28.00 maybe sometimes all beds are full. [ Nabih Rihani ] It will be around let’s say 100 00:05:29.00 --> 00:05:33.00 people in this tent. [ Nabih Rihani ] We stopped now receiving you know. [ Nabih Rihani ] We received 00:05:33.00 --> 00:05:38.00 but everybody knows that there is no more room, there is no more, 00:05:39.00 --> 00:05:41.00 it’s real full capacity. [ Nabih Rihani ] It’s no more room. 00:05:42.00 --> 00:05:45.00 [ Nabih Rihani ] We can’t put 2 persons to sleep in one bed. 00:05:45.17 --> 00:05:48.16 [ LIVE ] - Tell me, what ails you? [ LIVE ] - A little pain 00:05:49.09 --> 00:05:51.10 [ LIVE ] - Anything else? [ LIVE ] - No, nothing 00:05:51.11 --> 00:05:52.16 [ LIVE ] Any cough? 00:05:52.17 --> 00:05:57.08 [ LIVE ] Well, I have a sore throat and a rash all over my body 00:05:57.09 --> 00:05:59.22 [ LIVE ] - A rash all over your body? [ LIVE ] - Yes 00:05:59.23 --> 00:06:06.10 [ Muhammad Afzal ] My duties, I wake up at 8:00. [ Muhammad Afzal ] After that, I have breakfast at 9:00 00:06:06.11 --> 00:06:14.10 [ Muhammad Afzal ] After breakfast, I make the rounds with the doctor, translating, 00:06:14.11 --> 00:06:16.21 and faster than some… 00:06:17.17 --> 00:06:22.02 [ Muhammad Afzal ] I have some experience in my old country working in a pharmacy, 00:06:22.03 --> 00:06:26.01 so I have a little experience, not a lot, but a little bit 00:06:26.02 --> 00:06:31.03 [ Muhammad Afzal ] I used to live in Pakistan in Peshawar, near the border with Afghanistan 00:06:31.09 --> 00:06:36.04 [ Muhammad Afzal ] In a public school, some terrorists killed a lot of children 00:06:36.16 --> 00:06:44.15 [ Muhammad Afzal ] After that, I felt very stressful and feared for my life, so I decided to leave my country 00:06:44.16 --> 00:06:49.21 [ Muhammad Afzal ] I want to go to a European country and continue my studies 00:06:49.22 --> 00:07:00.07 [ Muhammad Afzal ] After that, with a little work and a little money… and marriage 00:07:01.00 --> 00:07:04.17 [ Muhammad Afzal ] And I'll bring my family over to be with me in Europe 00:07:15.19 --> 00:07:17.24 [ Bahman Mousalou ] We have plenty of time at night 00:07:18.00 --> 00:07:22.01 [ Bahman Mousalou ] Some go out to visit cafes, some play football 00:07:22.10 --> 00:07:25.24 [ Bahman Mousalou ] Those who stay in the shelter play cards and smoke 00:07:26.00 --> 00:07:28.14 [ Bahman Mousalou ] In order to make some money, 00:07:28.20 --> 00:07:34.12 some go around trying to sell spare shoes or sweaters to people who need them 00:07:35.03 --> 00:07:43.20 [ Bahman Mousalou ] Five or six people here have become barbers to earn a little money 00:07:53.11 --> 00:08:00.07 [ Ale Siljdedic Bihać police ] One event attracted a great deal of attention earlier this month, 00:08:00.08 --> 00:08:11.01 when a mass brawl broke out between more than a hundred migrants living at a centre in Bihac 00:08:11.02 --> 00:08:19.09 [ Ale Siljdedic ] More than 40 people were injured in that fight, three of them severely 00:08:24.20 --> 00:08:30.19 [ Muhammad Afzal ] One guy started the fight, but I don't know who. He stole a cell phone from… 00:08:30.20 --> 00:08:36.06 [ Muhammad Afzal ] He's from Afghanistan and he stole a phone from a Pakistani guy, and he escaped 00:08:36.07 --> 00:08:41.19 [ Muhammad Afzal ] And there are Pakistani people abusing Afghani people, 00:08:42.02 --> 00:08:44.08 so they're both angry 00:08:44:00 --> 00:08:52:00 --> [ Bahman Mousalou ] And suddenly they started to fight, the Afghani decided to draw all 00:08:52.00 --> 00:08:59.00 Pakistani from this camp out. [ Bahman Mousalou ] And nearly 300 people they fight each 00:08:59.00 --> 00:09:06.00 other by iron, by wood, by stone. [ Bahman Mousalou ] They throw, they started to fight. 00:09:07.00 --> 00:09:12.00 [ Bahman Mousalou ] They broke all windows of the container. [ Bahman Mousalou ]We really scared, 00:09:12.00 --> 00:09:16.00 we came out, we stand near the door when they want attack. 00:09:16.00 --> 00:09:20.00 [ Bahman Mousalou ] We told we’re Iranian, don’t attack, this is our container. 00:09:44.12 --> 00:09:53.09 [ Muhammad Afzal ] Rules? It's a rule not to give your smuggler's name to the police 00:09:53.10 --> 00:09:54.14 [ Muhammad Afzal ] That's a rule 00:09:55.00 --> 00:09:58.05 [ Muhammad Afzal ] And don't be scared 00:10:00.06 --> 00:10:01.10 [ Muhammad Afzal ] You… 00:10:01.11 --> 00:10:05.23 [ Muhammad Afzal ] You need to be mentally strong, and physically strong too 00:10:05.24 --> 00:10:07.05 [ Muhammad Afzal ] That's a rule 00:10:07.19 --> 00:10:18.16 [ Muhammad Afzal ] Don't lose your mindset if it's not possible when you try to cross for the first time 00:10:19.00 --> 00:10:20.11 [ Muhammad Afzal ] It's a game 00:10:26.00 --> 00:10:26.00 [ Bahman Mousalou ] You know, this word has come from Turkish, the people who once came 00:10:26.00 --> 00:10:35.00 from Turkey to Greece by boat. [ Bahman Mousalou ]They call it game because it’s like 00:10:35:00 --> 00:10:40:00 --> a soccer play. [ Bahman Mousalou ]You can’t predict second by second. 00:10:42:00 --> 00:10:46:00 --> [ Bahman Mousalou ] A team beat 3:0 and suddenly you saw it 3:3. 00:10:46:00 --> 00:10:48:00 --> [ Bahman Mousalou ] It’s a game, you don’t know anything about it. 00:10:49.00 --> 00:10:52.00 [ Bahman Mousalou ] That’s why they call this game. [ Bahman Mousalou ] And when you’re started to go, 00:10:53.00 --> 00:10:59.00 it’s 50/50 you’ll be alive or you’ll be again die to reach 00:10:59.00 --> 00:11:01.00 other side of another country. 00:11:03.00 --> 00:11:10.00 [ LIVE Bahman Mousalou ] We’re taking some extra clothes, the trousers, a shirt, pullover. 00:11:10:00 --> 00:11:17:00 --> [ LIVE Bahman Mousalou ] And food, chocolate like everything we need on the way. 00:11:18:00 00:28:00 [ LIVE Bahman Mousalou ] Extra clothes, socks we’ll use on the way. ??? OK. 00:11:44.07 --> 00:11:46.24 [ LIVE ] You need to walk along the border line 00:11:47.00 --> 00:11:49.12 [ LIVE ] This big road here is the border 00:11:49.13 --> 00:11:51.22 [ LIVE ] It has a lot of truck traffic 00:11:51.23 --> 00:11:55.20 [ LIVE ] You should go along it, but not in the middle 00:11:55.21 --> 00:12:01.06 because there are police cars going in both directions, 00:12:01.07 --> 00:12:03.17 and they could catch you 00:12:03.23 --> 00:12:06.13 [ LIVE ] Don't forget to come from this side! 00:13:08.11 --> 00:13:11.02 [ LIVE ] They were basically living here 00:13:11.03 --> 00:13:15.12 [ LIVE ] These were furnished rooms with beds 00:13:15.21 --> 00:13:19.19 [ LIVE ] All the beds were broken, only the mattresses remained 00:13:20.06 --> 00:13:23.20 [ LIVE ] They destroyed the entire room 00:13:24.18 --> 00:13:30.23 [ LIVE ] Even the flooring was ripped up and burnt 00:13:31.20 --> 00:13:34.23 [ LIVE ] They left garbage everywhere 00:13:35.17 --> 00:13:40.14 [ LIVE ] This is a forester's house in Prsan Uvala, 00:13:41.03 --> 00:13:43.04 1,000 metres high 00:13:43.05 --> 00:13:46.12 [ LIVE ] Last year, it was a decent place to live 00:13:50.12 --> 00:13:55.17 [ Ermin Lipovic Bihac mountain rescue service ] They use this route because this is the shortest road to Slovenia, 00:13:55.18 --> 00:14:01.10 and there are not so many inhabited areas, no people, no villages, 00:14:01.11 --> 00:14:03.13 and no one moves around 00:14:03.14 --> 00:14:07.02 [ Ermin Lipovic ] The police patrol the area in cars, 00:14:07.03 --> 00:14:09.18 but they are powerless to block it 00:14:09.19 --> 00:14:17.13 [ Ermin Lipovic ] The migrants use the intervals between patrols to cross to the EU 00:14:17.14 --> 00:14:22.08 [ Ermin Lipovic ] Last summer, when we saw that they just kept on coming, 00:14:22.09 --> 00:14:27.20 we teamed up with the Red Cross and other organisations to point out the danger 00:14:27.21 --> 00:14:33.11 [ Ermin Lipovic ] We showed them maps marked with mine fields and other dangers 00:14:33.12 --> 00:14:37.00 [ Ermin Lipovic ] They just smiled and photographed them, saying: 00:14:37.01 --> 00:14:40.11 'That's great info, there's no police there!' 00:14:40.12 --> 00:14:47.07 [ Ermin Lipovic ] Then they used them to illegally pass through the hills and mountains 00:14:47.08 --> 00:14:51.14 [ Ermin Lipovic ] We only had two calls this winter 00:14:51.15 --> 00:14:57.20 [ Ermin Lipovic ] One was very serious and difficult because it happened in the Pljesevica Mountains 00:14:57.21 --> 00:15:05.07 [ Ermin Lipovic ] It took us 13 hours to find the group that had called for help 00:15:05.08 --> 00:15:06.17 [ LIVE ] This is problem 00:15:08.16 --> 00:15:09.20 [ LIVE ] Back to game 00:15:09.21 --> 00:15:12.13 [ LIVE ] - Back to game? [ LIVE ] - Back to game, big problem 00:15:14.14 --> 00:15:17.11 [ Ermin Lipovic Bihac mountain rescue service ] Two guys had hypothermia, 00:15:17.12 --> 00:15:20.04 one had serious hypothermia 00:15:20.05 --> 00:15:28.06 [ Ermin Lipovic ] He was crying out in pain 00:15:29.08 --> 00:15:33.16 [ LIVE ] He's come back from the game, everyone's coming back like that 00:15:35:00 --> 00:15:40:00 --> [ Nabih Rihani acting team leader ] This guy, he was in this camp for over a month. [ Nabih Rihani ] And we could say 00:15:41.00 --> 00:15:46.00 in his both feet, he got a gangrene and that is spreading. 00:15:46:00 00:15:51:00 NABIH RIHANI ACTING TEAM LEADER 00:15:46.00 --> 00:15:51.00 [ Nabih Rihani ] We managed one month ago to put him in the hospital. [ Nabih Rihani ] But he doesn’t --> 00:15:51:00 --> 00:15:56:00 want to stay in hospital. [ Nabih Rihani ] I would say he got a mental problem. 00:15:56.00 --> 00:16:00.00 [ Nabih Rihani ] Because he refuses to take any kind of antibiotics, 00:16:00.00 --> 00:16:06.00 any kind of injections. [ Nabih Rihani ] No way. [ Nabih Rihani ] We tried to persuade him many times. 00:16:06.00 --> 00:16:10.00 [ Nabih Rihani ] Persuade him, but he got some kind, I don’t know… he’s thinking 00:16:10.00 --> 00:16:17.00 about some, he’s in another world. [ Nabih Rihani ] Now I think DRC is playing 00:16:18.00 --> 00:16:22.00 the major role, they will take him, you could see it, almost by force. 00:16:28.15 --> 00:16:33.06 [ LIVE ] Hi, we're in Slovenia near the Italian border 00:16:33.07 --> 00:16:34.24 [ LIVE ] Have a good journey 00:16:35.02 --> 00:16:36.15 [ LIVE ] OK, take the phone 00:16:46.08 --> 00:16:53.07 [ LIVE ] That's Khadi Shirazi, the most famous expert in crossing borders 00:16:54.07 --> 00:16:56.02 [ LIVE ] That's Khamed Azari 00:16:56.18 --> 00:16:58.22 [ LIVE ] This is Hamid and his wife 00:17:00.21 --> 00:17:03.22 [ LIVE ] These are the infamous Neda and Khabib 00:17:03.23 --> 00:17:06.21 [ LIVE ] They're big mafiosi 00:17:08.04 --> 00:17:11.04 [ Bahman Mousalou ] We had food and water for two or three days 00:17:11.05 --> 00:17:15.23 [ Bahman Mousalou ] I love the forest, seeing it makes me feel good, I'm happy 00:17:15.24 --> 00:17:20.01 [ Bahman Mousalou ] Maybe the others were afraid, but I was happy and cheerful 00:17:20.02 --> 00:17:23.02 [ Bahman Mousalou ] We all walked in line, one behind the other 00:17:23.03 --> 00:17:26.07 [ Bahman Mousalou ] We walked for hours and came to a vast river 00:17:26.08 --> 00:17:30.18 [ Bahman Mousalou ] We went a little further and saw an old railway along the river 00:17:30.19 --> 00:17:36.09 [ Bahman Mousalou ] Then we climbed over a stone wall, crossed the river, and came to a dirt road 00:17:42.02 --> 00:17:44.18 [ LIVE ] Yes, a very good painting 00:17:45.23 --> 00:17:50.11 [ LIVE ] One more landscape featuring Bihac's picturesque scenery 00:17:50.12 --> 00:17:56.16 [ LIVE ] This is Strbacki Buk depicted in a very special way 00:17:57.17 --> 00:18:01.08 [ LIVE ] So, that's probably all 00:18:01.09 --> 00:18:03.06 [ LIVE ] We're finished for today 00:18:06.19 --> 00:18:15.01 [ Sej Ramic Teacher of arts, protests leader ] At first, refugees from Syria came 00:18:15.03 --> 00:18:21.16 and, due to our nature and experience with war, 00:18:21.17 --> 00:18:30.01 we felt sympathy for the women and kids arriving from Syria 00:18:37.08 --> 00:18:48.15 [ Sej Ramic ] But then I saw young people coming to Bihac in groups of 4, 5, and 6 00:18:48.16 --> 00:18:53.07 who were walking around town wearing rucksacks 00:18:53.10 --> 00:19:00.05 [ Sej Ramic ] We became curious as to why there were only young people, 00:19:00.06 --> 00:19:02.22 about 15-30 years old, 00:19:02.23 --> 00:19:08.23 without wives, girlfriends, sisters… without family 00:19:08.24 --> 00:19:18.03 Bihac used to be one of the quietest towns in Europe 00:19:18.04 --> 00:19:26.00 [ Sej Ramic ] If you can imagine, we didn't even lock our houses or cars 00:19:26.01 --> 00:19:27.22 [ Sej Ramic ] We didn't need to 00:19:27.23 --> 00:19:32.12 [ Sej Ramic ] But then we immediately began having burglaries 00:19:32.13 --> 00:19:36.19 and migrants illegally entering people's yards, and so on 00:19:39.13 --> 00:19:41.08 [ LIVE ] We won't give up Bihac! 00:19:41.09 --> 00:19:43.04 [ LIVE ] We won't give up Bihac! 00:19:43.17 --> 00:19:46.02 [ LIVE ] No way! Let's not give up Bihac! 00:19:47.02 --> 00:19:50.01 [ LIVE ] They take pictures of our kids… 00:19:51.03 --> 00:19:54.06 [ LIVE ] Stop and take pictures! 00:19:54.10 --> 00:19:56.15 [ LIVE ] And these kids are 12 years old 00:19:57.12 --> 00:20:02.09 [ LIVE ] We must go to the border and stop them 00:20:02.10 --> 00:20:06.07 because we know who is sending them 00:20:06.08 --> 00:20:09.03 and where they are entering Bosnia 00:20:09.05 --> 00:20:12.17 [ LIVE ] Now, if no one has anything else to say today, 00:20:12.18 --> 00:20:19.07 [ LIVE ] I ask you to behave peacefully and with dignity 00:20:19.17 --> 00:20:21.15 as before, please! 00:20:21.24 --> 00:20:26.03 [ Sej Ramic Teacher of arts, protests leader ] The biggest demonstration took place on October 20, 2018, 00:20:26.04 --> 00:20:29.14 with about 6,000 people attending 00:20:29.19 --> 00:20:35.09 [ Sej Ramic ] Citizens participated, and I supported them, 00:20:35.10 --> 00:20:39.24 and we marched up the streets to show that this town belongs to us, 00:20:40.00 --> 00:20:42.21 and not to those foreigners 00:21:18.08 --> 00:21:21.10 [ Muhammad Afzal ] They play games at night, not during the day 00:21:21.11 --> 00:21:24.07 [ Muhammad Afzal ] They play football and cricket 00:21:26.12 --> 00:21:29.17 [ Muhammad Afzal ] How many times have you tried to win this 'game'? 00:21:29.21 --> 00:21:34.12 [ Muhammad Afzal ] From here, I've tried just one time… I tried to enter Slovenia 00:21:34.13 --> 00:21:38.03 [ Muhammad Afzal ] The police caught me in Slovenia 00:21:38.11 --> 00:21:44.03 I crossed the border and then they deported me to Croatia, 00:21:44.04 --> 00:21:49.11 and Croatia is very bad… [ Muhammad Afzal ] I had a very bad experience in Croatia 00:21:49.15 --> 00:21:51.19 [ Muhammad Afzal ] They broke our cell phones 00:21:51.23 --> 00:21:55.03 [ Muhammad Afzal ] I'm lucky they only punched me once 00:21:55.04 --> 00:21:56.08 [ Muhammad Afzal ] I'm lucky 00:21:56.14 --> 00:22:01.13 [ Muhammad Afzal ] But they beat some of our friends very badly 00:22:01.18 --> 00:22:04.07 [ Muhammad Afzal ] One guy here, one here, one here 00:22:04.08 --> 00:22:07.09 [ Muhammad Afzal ] And he said, open the car and go 00:22:07.20 --> 00:22:12.12 [ Muhammad Afzal ] And one by one, he kicked or punched them 00:22:13.07 --> 00:22:17.07 [ Muhammad Afzal ] And if somebody fell down, he's gone 00:22:17.14 --> 00:22:22.02 [ Muhammad Afzal ] There'd be four guys on him, beating this guy 00:22:24.02 --> 00:22:30.24 [ LIVE ] The Slovenians apprehended and deported him along with 24 other people on some pretext 00:22:31.10 --> 00:22:34.01 [ LIVE ] They deported them to Bosnia 00:22:34.02 --> 00:22:37.05 [ LIVE ] They took our friend Bahman as well 00:22:37.15 --> 00:22:42.16 [ LIVE ] Cell phones, chargers, bank cards… they destroyed everything 00:22:44.06 --> 00:22:46.22 [ LIVE ] They also took Bahman away 00:22:47.02 --> 00:22:51.08 - Where is your friend? [ LIVE ] - He's in police custody 00:22:51.14 --> 00:22:56.17 [ LIVE ] Hi, once again, we're in a Croatian police van on the Slovenian border 00:22:57.22 --> 00:23:01.01 [ LIVE ] That's sister Ronac and her godfather 00:23:01.02 --> 00:23:02.17 [ LIVE ] Hi, it's us again! 00:23:03.24 --> 00:23:07.07 [ LIVE ] We've been captured for the second time 00:23:08.14 --> 00:23:12.09 [ LIVE ] These are Slovenian border guards, say hello guys! 00:23:12.10 --> 00:23:17.19 [ LIVE ] Hello everybody, my name's Bahman, and we're being sent back to Iran 00:23:18.19 --> 00:23:22.11 - Go on… [ LIVE ] - My name's Bahman, and I've made 16 attempts 00:23:22.12 --> 00:23:25.17 [ LIVE ] Now, they'll deport us to the town of Kladusa 00:23:26.00 --> 00:23:31.00 [ Bahman Mousalou ] We crossed the border, we went to Croatia. [ Bahman Mousalou ] And after that, 00:23:31.00 --> 00:23:38.00 3 nights we walk. [ Bahman Mousalou ] We reach a place that it has some truck station 00:23:39.00 --> 00:23:43.00 that they stay, and the driver get rest in some hostels. [ Bahman Mousalou ] And then 00:23:43.00 --> 00:23:47.00 smugglers, some of the 2 guys, 3 guys go for checking the parking. 00:23:47.00 --> 00:23:51.00 [ Bahman Mousalou ] They find some trucks, they open the door, I’m going inside. 00:23:51.00 --> 00:23:54.00 [ Bahman Mousalou ] In the morning, they start to go to the European Union and we don’t 00:23:55.00 --> 00:23:59.00 know which country. [ Bahman Mousalou ] I really don’t know, it was in the morning 00:24:01.00 --> 00:24:05.00 BAHMAN MOUSALOU REFUGEE 00:24:00.00 --> 00:24:04.00 that the truck I was… [ Bahman Mousalou ] I think the truck had somewhere to park 00:24:05:00 --> 00:24:10:00 --> to get some rest. [ Bahman Mousalou ] And I hear that the police came and said, ‘hello, 00:24:10:00 --> 00:24:15:00 --> open the door.’ [ Bahman Mousalou ] When he open the door, so ‘oh’. [ Bahman Mousalou ] Full of migrants 00:24:15.00 --> 00:24:18.00 inside the truck. [ Bahman Mousalou ] He said, ‘close the door.’ [ Bahman Mousalou ] Maybe call another 00:24:18.00 --> 00:24:24.00 colleagues to come to manage. [ Bahman Mousalou ] And take us out of the truck and 00:24:24.00 --> 00:24:28.00 put us into a van, the deportation van, and brought us 00:24:28.00 --> 00:24:34.00 to the police station. [ Bahman Mousalou ] And this yesterday night they deported us 00:24:34.00 --> 00:24:39.00 on the border of Kaladusha. [ Bahman Mousalou ] They broke all our phones like this, 00:24:39.00 --> 00:24:41.00 and we come back again. [ Bahman Mousalou ] Last night we spent on a bus station because 00:24:45.00 --> 00:24:48.00 there wasn’t any bus station to be here, any bus to come. 00:24:4 8:00 00:24:50:00 [ Bahman Mousalou ] And just arrived now. 00:24:50.00 --> 00:24:55.00 [ LIVE ] Yes, yes. It’s in the container, but the guys sleep. 00:24:55.00 --> 00:25:00.00 [ LIVE ] Yes, they send me the picture, if you want I can bring you agan. 00:25:00:00 00:25:03:00 [ LIVE ] - You can go(??) [ LIVE ] - OK. Thanks. Bye 00:25:06.00 --> 00:25:11.00 [ Bahman Mousalou ] Many times I told them, if 100 times they capture me and deport me, 00:25:11.00 --> 00:25:14.00 I will come again. [ Bahman Mousalou ] Because I want to go and reach my goal. 00:25:15.00 --> 00:25:19.00 [ Bahman Mousalou ] No one can stop us. [ Bahman Mousalou ] Not only me, all guys here they have all their 00:25:19.00 --> 00:25:22.00 life they want to go to Europe to make a new life. 00:25:22.00 --> 00:25:25.00 [ Bahman Mousalou ] We want just to cross, no one can stop us. --> 00:25:25:00 --> 00:25:35:00 - So you wanna win this game? - Of course. If all natural ??? again these guys one by one they 00:25:36.00 --> 00:25:40.00 will go by walking, by car, everywhere. [ Bahman Mousalou ] Inside the forest, everywhere. 00:25:41.00 --> 00:25:45.00 [ Bahman Mousalou ] We have our way, we can go. [ Bahman Mousalou ] Never, no one can stop us. 00:25:46.00 --> 00:25:50.00 - And you can win? - Of course. Yeah, we’ll be win. Why not? 00:25:53.23 --> 00:25:58.16 [ Bahman Mousalou ] Migration – this is one of the things that shakes my heart to the core 00:25:58.17 --> 00:26:01.13 [ Bahman Mousalou ] Migration – this is a huge change in life 00:26:01.14 --> 00:26:05.01 [ Bahman Mousalou ] Heroes with hard bodies and nerves of steel 00:26:05.18 --> 00:26:08.20 [ Bahman Mousalou ] You and I are heroes of this poem of fear 00:26:09.01 --> 00:26:13.05 [ Bahman Mousalou ] Our life is a risk hanging over a terrible and dangerous sea 00:26:13.06 --> 00:26:14.20 [ Bahman Mousalou ] This is a war for life 00:26:18.00 --> 00:26:27.00 TITLE [ AFTER MAKING A SERIES OF UNSUCCESSFUL ATTEMPTS, BACHMAN ULTIMATELY SUCCEEDED IN REACHING ITALY IN MARCH 2019. HE EVENTUALLY MADE IT TO GERMANY ]